LETTER FROM JOHN GILBERT TO JIM DEBOO
Date 25-12-2012
BAKER PERKINS APPRENTICE
Dear Dr Deboo.
My name is John Gilbert, I was a BAKER PERKINS apprentice from 1955
to 1961. Along with many other of your apprentices, I went to Lincoln
Road Secondary School, although at the time none of us realised that
society regarded us as secondary and destined for craft shop floor
work at best.
When in 1954 I completed the initial pre apprentice assessment for
BAKER PERKINS whilst still at school, you came to my home at 113 Cromwell
Road to see my mum with the attached letter. You told her that I had
done very well in all of the aptitude tests and recommended that I
transfer my final year of secondary education to Peterborough Technical
College where I could complete the first 2 years of a City and Guilds
course in 1 year and be a year ahead when I started my apprenticeship.
You then facilitated the move for me.
When I was 18 I was working on nights in one of the turning bays
and you came to see me with the offer to convert from craft to drawing
office apprentice. The move from shop floor to drawing office was very
rare in those days and I often wonder what path my life might have
taken if you had not offered me that opportunity. I have been very
lucky and successful in my working life, most of which is down to the
early years in your care and the quality of training and discipline
that was instilled in us young men at Baker Perkins.
When, in 1988 I became responsible for the apprentices in my company,
I endeavoured to give any lads that showed initiative, the opportunity
to also move up from the shop floor by including a period in our project
engineering department in their training schedule. I am delighted to
say that a number took advantage of this and have far exceeded their
early expectations and am now company directors in their own right.
I like to think I helped them by giving a little support at the right
time...
My sister Sheila, who was a Baker Perkins secretary during the 1950's,
visited us in Wrexham recently and gave me a copy of the “NOT
JUST A PLACE TO WORK” book. I found the articles by former apprentices
very nostalgic and accurate. I took out my apprentice test pieces,
scribing block, vee blocks etc. to show her, and looking at them
wondered how Jack Hurst and his colleagues managed to train us raw
lads from secondary schools, in the initial 12 months in the apprentice
school to the high level of skill required to make these items.
Starting with the very first exercise, which taught us how to use
a hacksaw accurately on a piece of black plate, through the chiselling
and filing of blocks of rough cast iron which eventually became our
vee blocks and the very accurate test pieces and finally to making all
of the components for our own scribing blocks. I can remember nervously
standing in front of Mr Hurst whilst he measured my test pieces and
held the two part pieces up to the light to check for uneven gaps between
the mating edges. Then to be taught the basic skills required for fitting, marking
out, turning, milling and grinding before we were transferred to the
works.
I had not seen the basic test pieces we made shown in any of the
BPHS data so thought photo's of mine might be of interest to Dick and
I wondered how many of the old apprentices still had these work pieces
Dick thanked me for the photo's and said that none of the test pieces
appeared to have survived. So I decided to donated mine to the BPHS
so that perhaps some time after we are all long gone, future generations
will be able to see the skills that Baker Perkins were able to instil
in us secondary school lads in our first year of training.
One photo is of my handing over all of my apprentice test pieces
into the care of Dick and the BPHS. Another photo is of myself, Alan "Nobby" Clarke
and Alan Cuthbert. We were at Lincoln Road Boys School together and
then apprentices in the
1954/5 intakes. We have kept in touch over the years via letter
and now e-mail and we met up last year for what will probably the last
time as Nobby lives in Australia and Alan lives in Spain.
I wanted to get us together outside the old apprentice school for
one last time, so that is another item I can now tick off my BUCKET
LIST.
Nobby emigrated in the early 60's and spent most of his working
life as chief sheet metal instructor at Sydney Technical College.
Alan Cuthbert held senior management roles with Ford's Finance Division.
When looking at a copy of my resume I know that the skills and discipline
you instilled in us as young men was the main common element in any
success we achieved in later life.
Thank you again Dr Deboo, without you and Baker Perkins my life
would have been very different.
Best wishes for 2013
John Gilbert
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